tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post101841633319956809..comments2024-03-17T05:07:13.710-05:00Comments on Wuthering <br>Expectations: The Portuguese Literature Challenge - Those matchless chiefs who from the shore of Western Lusitania beganAmateur Reader (Tom)http://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-19842612573069065392013-01-23T23:27:03.825-06:002013-01-23T23:27:03.825-06:00That was a great idea! I read a lot of great book...That was a great idea! I read a lot of great books, as did a number of other people. Please poke around. <br /><br />Eça de Queirós, Machado de Assis, and Fernando Pessoa are hard to beat.<br /><br />Another good source - a better source! - for Portuguese literature is <a href="http://storberose.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">St. Orberose</a> who covers the gamut, old and new, prose or verse, translated or a distant echo as if heard in a dream.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-74586014823718241082013-01-23T21:38:47.168-06:002013-01-23T21:38:47.168-06:00This sounds like a great idea. I have come upon it...This sounds like a great idea. I have come upon it way too late, so I am only writing in to say, "Good for you." I found you because I was doing a search on Portuguese literature. I have never read any and I wanted a recommendation. Now I see that I have several options. Thank you!Susan Malterhttp://susanmalter.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-51404944883687755462012-03-06T21:29:43.292-06:002012-03-06T21:29:43.292-06:00Good point. Who and where are the Portuguese Kipli...Good point. Who and where are the Portuguese Kipling and Conrad?Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-36892092017855347042012-03-06T20:50:39.204-06:002012-03-06T20:50:39.204-06:00I just posted on another very interesting Brazilia...I just posted on another very interesting Brazilian short story, "The Confession" by Joaquin Machado de Assis-I have been unable to find any short stories from anywhere else in the former Portuguese Empire-I guess the colonial administrators were not as literary as their British counterparts!Mel uhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08714473754458914681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-38198739512066113552012-01-27T08:20:17.678-06:002012-01-27T08:20:17.678-06:00Thanks for the recommendations. I recently read P...Thanks for the recommendations. I recently read Pires, actually (<a href="http://wutheringexpectations.blogspot.com/2011/12/portugal-europes-best-kept-secret-first.html" rel="nofollow">see here</a>). I have been reading about Tavares - sounds promising.<br /><br />Ah, they all sound good. Unfortunately, none of them meet the pre-1920 rule, so it would be ideal if someone else read these books and tell me all about them.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-11554721178919339542012-01-27T08:15:16.695-06:002012-01-27T08:15:16.695-06:00hey, just found this post by chance. i studied lus...hey, just found this post by chance. i studied lusophone literatures and am therefore biased and definitely inclined to suggest a few names:<br /><br />- jose cardoso pires, ballad of dogs' beach (portugal)<br />- goncalo m. tavares, jerusalem (portugal)<br />- clarice lispector, hour of the star (brazil)<br />- graciliano ramos, barren lives (brazil)<br />- germano almeida, the last will and testament of senhor da silva araujo (cape verde) <br /><br />hope this is of use.<br /><br />best,<br /><br />f.chiconotbuarquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08683553951424094273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-82751614562383353892011-10-15T02:21:25.313-05:002011-10-15T02:21:25.313-05:00My third of four posts on 19th century Brazilian s...My third of four posts on 19th century Brazilian short stories was on "The Pigeons" by Coelho Netto-from 1895 it centers on an Indian man and wife facing the death of their infant son.Mel uhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08714473754458914681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-18879317214433181312011-10-13T21:48:26.472-05:002011-10-13T21:48:26.472-05:00That's a great question. Was there any good -...That's a great question. Was there any good - even passable - literature from colonial Cape Verde, or by Portuguese Newfoundland-cod fishermen?<br /><br />The biggest name in Lusophone African literature is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mia_Couto" rel="nofollow">Mia Couto</a>, from Mozambique. A few of his books, including some stories, have been translated. Hey, maybe I found <a href="http://www.andotherstories.org/author/mia-couto/" rel="nofollow">some online</a>.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-41171576858102840712011-10-13T19:31:10.051-05:002011-10-13T19:31:10.051-05:00The Portuguese Empire was once huge-it lasted long...The Portuguese Empire was once huge-it lasted longer than the British. There are, besides Brazil, 48 countries that were at one time part of the empire such as Angola, Mozambique, parts of Canada and India, Malaysia, China and numerous islands. I wonder what literary legacy we might find in these areas? It would be fascinating to see posts on short stories from writers from other parts of the Empire by Portuguese language writers.Mel uhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08714473754458914681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-73404635987616323262011-10-13T19:22:03.521-05:002011-10-13T19:22:03.521-05:00I have now posted on a second 19th century Brazili...I have now posted on a second 19th century Brazilian short story, "Aunt Zeze's Tears" by Emilia Moncorua Banderia de Mello. This is a very interesting story about a 30 year old single woman in Rio.Mel uhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08714473754458914681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-71128499652659513622011-10-12T11:42:52.632-05:002011-10-12T11:42:52.632-05:00Good. I think I will wait until you have finished...Good. I think I will wait until you have finished your series to post something, but I will look at the Gutenberg text now.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-35691306879433595152011-10-12T02:44:20.208-05:002011-10-12T02:44:20.208-05:00I posted today on a short story by Jose de Medeiri...I posted today on a short story by Jose de Medeirios Alburquerque (from Recife-1867 to 1934) written in 1899 "The Revenge of Felix". It is a very entertaining well plotted stories set inthe slums of Rio de Janeiro-I will post on stories by three more pre-1920 Brazilian writers soon-Mel uhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08714473754458914681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-69770738735954906362011-09-26T13:52:44.656-05:002011-09-26T13:52:44.656-05:00It's not right, I know. At your urging, I did...It's not right, I know. At your urging, I did look up Dinis, and would love to try something. Maybe someday.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-75654443202376803362011-09-26T13:31:26.813-05:002011-09-26T13:31:26.813-05:00Amateur Reader - I had no idead that Júlio Dinis w...Amateur Reader - I had no idead that Júlio Dinis wasn't translated his books are fantastic!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-65223034227956108292011-09-25T15:41:33.620-05:002011-09-25T15:41:33.620-05:00Ah, thank you for the information regarding The Lu...Ah, thank you for the information regarding <em>The Lusiads</em>. That gives me a helpful frame of reference.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-92129001431017555312011-09-25T11:24:17.176-05:002011-09-25T11:24:17.176-05:00Mother language - I had no idea. Wonderful that y...Mother language - I had no idea. Wonderful that you will join in. Feel free to keep me honest about any nonsense I spout about the language, culture, etc. And please add to or correct my lists.<br /><br />I am afraid that if I am to read Júlio Dinis, you will have to translate him for me. You or someone else.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-64518891089116151052011-09-25T11:13:16.959-05:002011-09-25T11:13:16.959-05:00Portuguese literature is overlooked in blogosphere...Portuguese literature is overlooked in blogosphere and I'm very happy to see this challenge. I'll join in, since I started blogging I've read less books in my mother language and this is a fantastic way to change that.<br />Queirós is my favorite Portuguese writer, though Julio Dinis novels are very good.<br />If you need help putting together a list just tell me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-65786136578635501682011-09-24T21:31:07.080-05:002011-09-24T21:31:07.080-05:00I don't know where to begin - The case for man...<i>I don't know where to begin</i> - The case for many people, I suspect. As I fill in some of the pieces over the next few months, something might strike your fancy.<br /><br /><i>The Lusiads</i> is probably comparable to the <i>Divine Comedy</i> in difficulty. Probably easier, really, but more difficult because of the unfamiliarity of the frame of reference, just as not knowing the history of Brazil as well as I know the history of England makes certain (minor) aspects of Machado de Assis more difficult.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-60117542454929914212011-09-24T17:02:28.905-05:002011-09-24T17:02:28.905-05:00Uh oh, I am extremely tempted by this, simply for ...Uh oh, I am extremely tempted by this, simply for the reason that I don't believe I've ever read any Portuguese fiction. I feel complete ignorance in this area, however, and don't really know where to begin, although a certain logic suggests <em>The Lusiads</em>. In your Portugal reading list, you mention it as an epic poem requiring "real effort"--is it more difficult or trying than <em>Divine Comedy</em>?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-59094887889920712972011-09-21T19:05:50.982-05:002011-09-21T19:05:50.982-05:00The 5 other writers in the Oxford anthology, repre...The 5 other writers in the Oxford anthology, represented with one or two stories each, are - sans the diacritics - Jose Verissimo, Emilia Moncorva Bandeira de Mello (pseud. Carmen Dolores), Paulo Baretto (Joao Paulo Emilio Cristovao dos Santos Coelho Barreto, pseud. Joao do Rio), and Lima Barreto.<br /><br /><i>Rebellion in the Backlands</i> is really something, so far as I read into it. A fusion of science and fiction (but not science fiction).Risehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17446964640160585194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-88847658518430974612011-09-21T15:24:34.701-05:002011-09-21T15:24:34.701-05:00Nana, good. I will remind you that I will try out ...Nana, good. I will remind you that I will try out Portuguese poetry from anywhere and any time, although I suspect that I might have trouble getting my hands on, I don't know, poetry from Mozambique, although who knows what might be online.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-89590885383144485142011-09-21T09:28:23.387-05:002011-09-21T09:28:23.387-05:00I will prompt Kinna of Kinna Reads about this chal...I will prompt Kinna of Kinna Reads about this challenge. She might be interested. I would also look around for qualifying books and should I get them would join this challenge.ImageNationshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06021414643103601330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-42944025955260252592011-09-21T09:04:50.694-05:002011-09-21T09:04:50.694-05:00The Maias is one of those novels that begins and e...<i>The Maias</i> is one of those novels that begins and ends with a house, that almost includes blueprints, so I understand how that sort of connection can really evoke the book.<br /><br />"O" and "Os" are both "the." "O" is masculine singular, "Os" masculine plural. On Friday I might write about my misguided attempt to learn some Portuguese.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-91174455650041745522011-09-21T08:59:35.915-05:002011-09-21T08:59:35.915-05:00AR - Yes, you really can stay in the house from &q...AR - Yes, you really can stay in the house from "Os Maias" (not "O Maias," what was I thinking?). Well, you can sort of stay there. I mean, the hotel admitted that it's essentially been rebuilt. But it does capture something of the atmosphere of the book, and one can imagine. There's a fantastic study on the top floor with a terrace overlooking the Tagus where one can really envision oneself being a character in the novel. So, despite the artifice, it's still very much worth doing. - Scottseraillonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17654593356535433945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-24490454631096411172011-09-21T08:58:13.569-05:002011-09-21T08:58:13.569-05:00litlove - for readers familiar with the strain of ...litlove - for readers familiar with the strain of French novel running Flaubert-Zola-Colette-Proust, and this is just based on <i>The Maias</i>, Eça de Queirós is fascinating, a flawless French novelist who happens to be writing about Portugal. Familiar yet strange.<br /><br />Let's plan on <i>The Crime of Padre Amaro</i>, but feel free to change your mind if something else sounds good, schedules change, etc. <br /><br />Rise - I think you're right about Cunha! I'll take a run at him myself & see what happens. Reading from that anthology is an excellent idea - a serious selection of Machado de Assis, and then a number of who-are-theys?Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.com