tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post2867787898046097001..comments2024-03-29T03:04:00.853-05:00Comments on Wuthering <br>Expectations: one verse led on to another verse,\ one poem led on to the other poem - the Poetic EddaAmateur Reader (Tom)http://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-55566182299605584522014-01-28T21:19:26.352-06:002014-01-28T21:19:26.352-06:00Very difficult - you must be right. Hollander was...Very difficult - you must be right. Hollander was a linguist, so the crevices of Old Icelandic were half the fun for him. But the reader has to share some of the effort.<br /><br />I love Grettir's and Egil's poems, or at least the idea that these troll-characters are also poets. They challenge my idea of how poetry can be used, what it is for.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-33117278980724329292014-01-28T20:11:04.285-06:002014-01-28T20:11:04.285-06:00My only exposure to Norse poetry is via the small ...My only exposure to Norse poetry is via the small snippets in translations of the historical sagas such as Grettir's Saga. It seems to be a difficult form to translate, even more difficult than other types of poetry. I have not read either the Poetic or Prose Edda, but you are certainly stimulating my interest.Ednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-83281527533759866702014-01-28T16:46:33.821-06:002014-01-28T16:46:33.821-06:00The three main examples I give all have different ...The three main examples I give all have different forms. The first uses the fornyrthislag stanza, "the typical metre for narrative lays." Hollander doesn't say what the second is in. The last one is "composed in somewhat incoherent stanzaic forms." Now that was helpful.<br /><br />Some of the variation way well come from corrupt texts.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-41613481546476652312014-01-28T15:31:49.594-06:002014-01-28T15:31:49.594-06:00Just a question, are those verses supposed to have...Just a question, are those verses supposed to have a specific metric? I can tell the translator's trying to stick to 8 or 9 syllables per verse, but sometimes he stretches them out...LMRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08538873868140070018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-18771834302461927952014-01-28T11:14:41.191-06:002014-01-28T11:14:41.191-06:00How intriguing. Maybe that is an essay you will h...How intriguing. Maybe that is an essay you will have to write, Shelley.<br /><br />What are you seeing in Maxwell's book?Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-70065055133401106892014-01-28T10:49:30.948-06:002014-01-28T10:49:30.948-06:00On matters poetic, Glyn Maxwell's new book On ...On matters poetic, Glyn Maxwell's new book On Poetry is blowing my mind. I would like to see a response to it here, because I think he's saying something (at least to me) new.Shelleyhttp://dustbowlstory.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-1902048468206810362014-01-28T08:22:39.913-06:002014-01-28T08:22:39.913-06:00I certainly agree. I suppose a reader with little...I certainly agree. I suppose a reader with little patience for mythology and legend - I have come across such creatures - would be bored with the Eddas. Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-80058731858499023872014-01-28T06:22:57.833-06:002014-01-28T06:22:57.833-06:00Mythology is fascinating and especially the spirit...Mythology is fascinating and especially the spiritual verse of Nordic culture, literature, and heritage. Your discussion is insightful and the reference to Hollander's translation is welcome. Thanks for your observations on these verses. Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00561320676355168336noreply@blogger.com