tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post5192872659613727063..comments2024-03-27T16:48:21.039-05:00Comments on Wuthering <br>Expectations: one man unworthy of his cowardly age - Alfieri, Goldoni, and Foscolo - 700 words and I can only cover three writersAmateur Reader (Tom)http://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-12223303714855893742015-01-06T23:38:48.023-06:002015-01-06T23:38:48.023-06:00Looking at the kirjasto bibliography of Pirandello...Looking at the <a href="http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/pirandel.htm" rel="nofollow">kirjasto bibliography</a> of Pirandello, especially the books in English, really makes it clear how little I know about Pirandello. Someone will have to tell me what is good. Feel free to save that for two days from now, when I finally get to Pirandello. Unless you know about <i>Shoot: The Notebook of Serafino Gubbio, Cinematograph Operator</i> (1915), I want to know about that one now.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-41864019117610217852015-01-06T22:26:21.780-06:002015-01-06T22:26:21.780-06:00I think Pirandello wrote a lot of short stories pr...I think Pirandello wrote a lot of short stories pre-WWI as well.Roger Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11012987757094423896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-63345211603568704162015-01-06T22:16:53.858-06:002015-01-06T22:16:53.858-06:00Early one-act Pirandello plays? I plead ignorance...Early one-act Pirandello plays? I plead ignorance.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-61718414113451434232015-01-06T18:13:42.274-06:002015-01-06T18:13:42.274-06:00I've read that novel; maybe your reviewing wil...I've read that novel; maybe your reviewing will recall some of it to me. Actually, the book of plays I have is called "Pirandello's One-Act Plays", and the first 3 are pre-WW1, the 4th is during it - then they stretch up to 1931.obookihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03885121629202810216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-14797935819782045132015-01-06T16:58:25.647-06:002015-01-06T16:58:25.647-06:00The Italian vowels are impossible in English, unat...The Italian vowels are impossible in English, unattainable.<br /><br />Pirandello, yes, but I suppose not any plays, since they cross the not-entirely-arbitrary WWI threshold that I have imagined. Just that early novel.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-82451468213226344992015-01-06T16:48:37.005-06:002015-01-06T16:48:37.005-06:00I have some Goldoni plays, in my giant stack of pl...I have some Goldoni plays, in my giant stack of plays to read; they're just beneath Pirandello (who I suppose may possibly be making an appearance).obookihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03885121629202810216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-4928599251361977592015-01-06T15:25:26.528-06:002015-01-06T15:25:26.528-06:00And then of course translators of Italian poetry m...And then of course translators of Italian <i>poetry</i> may face the <i>Orlando</i> conundrum - prose or an attempt to recreate in boring old English all those musical vowel endings found in Italian.<br /><br />Belli's poems are friggin' <i>unbelievable</i> - I mean, I really have a hard time believing that anyone was ever actually capable of conceiving of them, in any language or dialect. <br />seraillonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17654593356535433945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-86832834952809906972015-01-06T15:12:54.810-06:002015-01-06T15:12:54.810-06:00The St. Francis poem is early 13th century, which ...The St. Francis poem is early 13th century, which now that I think of it is a little late compared to some of the other medieval literatures. I guess not that late.<br /><br />Luckily, Scott, most of these books are short. Maybe just a trailer, not a truck. The St. Francis poem is, I see, in Umbrian dialect. Goldoni wrote in Venetian dialect. Belli's poems are Roman. There are two version of Manzoni's <i>Betrothed</i>, one in Tuscan and one in I don't know what. Just some examples before I even get to the Sicilians. It is baffling, and mostly hidden by translators who know I have enough to worry about already.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-41436511490015004972015-01-06T12:45:37.325-06:002015-01-06T12:45:37.325-06:00What is the Italian language? What is Italy? More...<i>What is the Italian language? What is Italy?</i> More than idle questions for a country that wasn't officially unified until 150 years ago, has a remarkably rich tradition of vernacular language exercised against its formal counterpart, and which even today proudly preserves regional and urban dialects that are all but impenetrable for those who only know textbook Italian. <br /><br />I'm enjoying your multiplying lists, but may need to rent a truck for the next library visit. seraillonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17654593356535433945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-33972053798270348642015-01-06T11:52:49.546-06:002015-01-06T11:52:49.546-06:00I'll just add that the first poem in Italian w...I'll just add that the first poem in Italian was probably St. Francis's "Canticle of the Sun." That's some beginning!<br /><br />Casanova wrote in French, so he might rightfully belong to French literature. If you ever tackle him, remember that the memoirs weren't really published until 1960; all editions before that were bowdlerizations and adaptations. I've only read a few hundred pages, but they were delightful. I'll have to get back to it. I heave a sigh. Doug Skinnerhttp://www.dougskinner.netnoreply@blogger.com