tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post7373174102764518056..comments2024-03-29T03:04:00.853-05:00Comments on Wuthering <br>Expectations: Vladislav Khodasevich - sound is more honest than meaning / and strongest of all is a wordAmateur Reader (Tom)http://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-38103969511338483142016-05-05T10:49:23.968-05:002016-05-05T10:49:23.968-05:00Yes, I thought it best to avoid that particular bi...Yes, I thought it best to avoid that particular bit of excess. I suppose it helped get the poems translated, published, and into my hands, but I am in no position to evaluate the claim.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-32558492546233612812016-05-05T10:17:49.710-05:002016-05-05T10:17:49.710-05:00Khodasevich is a wonderful poet, but it puzzled me...Khodasevich is a wonderful poet, but it puzzled me for a long time that Nabokov called him “the greatest Russian poet of our time” -- until I learned that they were close friends, and the quote comes from N’s memorial tribute. One should allow for a little rhetorical excess on such occasions.Languagehathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13285708503881129380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-75512321826539879522016-05-04T09:26:02.389-05:002016-05-04T09:26:02.389-05:00Italian is incomparable for sonic beauty.Italian is incomparable for sonic beauty.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-15209418041808883412016-05-04T07:04:10.829-05:002016-05-04T07:04:10.829-05:00James Joyce, as I recall, thought that the most be...James Joyce, as I recall, thought that the most beautiful English word was "cuspidor," which is eerily similar. He also praised the sheer sonic beauty of Dante's "siccome i gru van cantando lor lai," which I'd have to second. Doug Skinnerhttp://www.dougskinner.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-90184071724947697892016-05-03T23:16:27.847-05:002016-05-03T23:16:27.847-05:00enlightening whatchacallit, that blue letter thing...enlightening whatchacallit, that blue letter thingy... i had no idea so many persons had commented on the subject; fascinating, really, what the average savant can find to occupy his time... have to admit i liked dorothy parker's a lot...Mudpuddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17194891656971454279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-2574306145219837132016-05-03T13:24:22.558-05:002016-05-03T13:24:22.558-05:00Much dispute over the origin of that "cellar ...<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/14/magazine/14FOB-onlanguage-t.html?_r=0" rel="nofollow">Much dispute</a> over the origin of that "cellar door" business.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-70785329930261990772016-05-03T11:39:26.907-05:002016-05-03T11:39:26.907-05:00i remember, it might have been auden, a poet who t...i remember, it might have been auden, a poet who thought the most beautiful sounds in the english language were "cellar door"...Mudpuddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17194891656971454279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-24610837640895773672016-05-03T10:13:26.474-05:002016-05-03T10:13:26.474-05:00This interests me:
"But sound is more honest ...This interests me:<br />"But sound is more honest than meaning,<br /> and strongest of all is a word."<br />I'm off to read more about semiotics as a way of sounding the depths of the ideas suggested in the extracted lines. Off the top of my head, I can think of some sounds that are universal but most sounds/words/meanings are limited by languages. And I am reminded that Samuel Beckett was perplexed about the limitations of words as conveyors of meaning, so he embraced the notion of sound as meaning. I also remember that I used to ask people to name the word that they most enjoyed saying because of the sound rather than the meaning. It is an interesting exercise. I leave you with one word: zucchini. It is a word with so much sound and meaning.RTDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17113953356514605424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-53383691400786518772016-05-03T08:20:03.863-05:002016-05-03T08:20:03.863-05:00Just the personal stories of these poets, setting ...Just the personal stories of these poets, setting aside the poems, are so fascinating as to be almost distracting.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-11384432844260179742016-05-03T04:59:46.222-05:002016-05-03T04:59:46.222-05:00They certainly are a fascinating lot - thanks for ...They certainly are a fascinating lot - thanks for your posts!<br /><br />kaggsysbookishramblingsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com