tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post26002142245128303..comments2024-03-27T16:48:21.039-05:00Comments on Wuthering <br>Expectations: Not a vestige of propriety, or any beastly rules to be kept! - angry, cruel TrollopeAmateur Reader (Tom)http://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-14722581034365899482016-02-01T08:17:09.338-06:002016-02-01T08:17:09.338-06:00Yes, bizarre to have the characters do it. This a...Yes, bizarre to have the characters do it. This ain't Laurence Sterne.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-46189130031750974482016-02-01T01:55:24.589-06:002016-02-01T01:55:24.589-06:00Absolutely, but the characters should never do so ...Absolutely, but the characters should never do so - they are unaware of any walls.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07546287562521628467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-60741641602895829882016-01-30T14:56:19.776-06:002016-01-30T14:56:19.776-06:00Angry at the anger, I like that.
The members of t...Angry at the anger, I like that.<br /><br />The members of the Beargarden club are in search of their inner Yahoo. Yahoos who play cards.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-91883610412999912102016-01-30T14:06:30.139-06:002016-01-30T14:06:30.139-06:00It's years since I read it, but if I remember ...It's years since I read it, but if I remember rightly Trollope <i>is</i> angry in <i>He Knew He Was Right</i>. Paradoxically, Trollope's anger is directed at the main character's (I've forgotten his name, I'm afraid) anger. As <i>The Way We Live Now </i>shows, Trollope's own anger is not obsessive and it can veer into sympathy; in <i>He Knew He Was Right</i> the anger is obsessive, pharisaical and disproportionate.<br />I don't think "<i>The Way We Live Now </i> is full of Yahoos", actually. There is an obsessiveness in Swift's portrait of the Yahoos which isn't there in Trollope's portrait of England. Trollope condemns with a detachment that is all the more damning.Roger Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11012987757094423896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-43490963732904574482016-01-30T11:26:05.787-06:002016-01-30T11:26:05.787-06:00Yes, me too. A great skill, and Trollope is among ...Yes, me too. A great skill, and Trollope is among the best with it.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-34834801657486561452016-01-30T11:25:08.589-06:002016-01-30T11:25:08.589-06:00Breaking the 4th wall is central for Trollope, isn...Breaking the 4th wall is central for Trollope, isn't it? But the character who speaks to the audience should be Trollope, wandering through the sets, commenting on the characters, mocking the viewers.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-34521671123323876152016-01-30T11:22:59.536-06:002016-01-30T11:22:59.536-06:00Ah, an angry character. When I say a book is angr...Ah, an angry character. When I say a book is angry, I really mean the author is angry. Book IV of <i>Gulliver's Travels</i>, that's what I mean, that kind of satire. <i>The Way We Live Now</i> is full of Yahoos.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-73917808295652978352016-01-30T05:45:52.227-06:002016-01-30T05:45:52.227-06:00I loathed the miniseries, it ruined a great book. ...I loathed the miniseries, it ruined a great book. Whoever came up with the idea of breaking the fourth wall...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07546287562521628467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-29731793699787921602016-01-30T05:44:42.218-06:002016-01-30T05:44:42.218-06:00The anger is less that of the writer and more the ...The anger is less that of the writer and more the product of the main character, but it's rather intense. It's probably one of his best books, so one you'll probably have to get around to at some point ;)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07546287562521628467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-45861018844286776212016-01-29T11:28:46.006-06:002016-01-29T11:28:46.006-06:00Yes, no room for Flatfleece in the TV series, much...Yes, no room for Flatfleece in the TV series, much less his poor, ruined family.<br /><br /><i>He Knew He Was Right</i> is one I need to read, along with the last two Pallisers.<br /><br />The gentleness, or otherwise, of the satire is an interesting issue. Parliament and politics could be a ripe target for some attacks, but Trollope seems to respect the institution too much. Same goes for the Anglican Church. Same goes for fox hunting.<br /><br />But dissolute gentlemen and financiers - no need to hold back with them.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-47758147852423141692016-01-29T11:23:38.959-06:002016-01-29T11:23:38.959-06:00I should add that I think it shows a writer's ...I should add that I think it shows a writer's skill when he/she can make the see-saw swing back and forth when it comes to sympathy. Guy Savagehttp://www.swiftlytiltingplanet.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-6883421186354965402016-01-29T11:21:10.636-06:002016-01-29T11:21:10.636-06:00Good questions which I have no answer for as I hav...Good questions which I have no answer for as I haven't read the book, and can't judge it on the miniseries. Guy Savagehttp://www.swiftlytiltingplanet.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-33509726577709347962016-01-29T10:42:45.907-06:002016-01-29T10:42:45.907-06:00Right now He Knew He Was Right is my own favorite ...Right now He Knew He Was Right is my own favorite Trollope novel. The anger is diluted with a lot of gentle satire and genuine romance, but yes, it is intense.Rohan Maitzenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12111722115617352412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-11796755978333165012016-01-28T21:58:21.730-06:002016-01-28T21:58:21.730-06:00No, I haven't, how interesting. Who is Trollo...No, I haven't, how interesting. Who is Trollope angry at in that novel?Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-53183875528244710732016-01-28T21:34:47.237-06:002016-01-28T21:34:47.237-06:00Have you read 'He Knew He Was Right'? Tha...Have you read 'He Knew He Was Right'? That takes anger to a new level for Trollope...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07546287562521628467noreply@blogger.com