tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post6162749627637627815..comments2024-03-29T03:04:00.853-05:00Comments on Wuthering <br>Expectations: It is more difficult to be someone else in prose - the Book of Disquiet readalong.Amateur Reader (Tom)http://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-32856989335785766712014-03-30T17:10:23.154-05:002014-03-30T17:10:23.154-05:00Danny, best of luck with your question - I do not ...Danny, best of luck with your question - I do not know the answer - and your entire project.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-10058422394312934022014-03-30T07:11:02.855-05:002014-03-30T07:11:02.855-05:00I am doing an essay on the book and wonder if anyo...I am doing an essay on the book and wonder if anyone has a chart that shows the different ordering and their correspondent "number" in the other editions, so that I can cross reference them, and most important find the Portugues original for any quotes I use. I'm reading the translation by Margaret Jull Costa which includes in brackets (parentheses) the corresponding fragment in the Atica portugues edition but I have the edition organized by Richard Zenith. So basically I need a chart that shows the fragments that correspond between the Atica and Richard Zenith edition.<br />Much appreciated if anyone out there can help me.Danny Blackwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18134378481154530070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-8830874775812536522012-01-11T13:10:42.422-06:002012-01-11T13:10:42.422-06:00I can believe that The Book of Disquiet is an unus...I can believe that <i>The Book of Disquiet</i> is an unusually patient book.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-51607557606324486762012-01-11T11:52:56.648-06:002012-01-11T11:52:56.648-06:00My copy of Disquiet has been waiting patiently for...My copy of Disquiet has been waiting patiently for me to find the perfect time. This may be it.Isabella Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10735198478395875257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-82526722932043326102012-01-10T11:06:01.290-06:002012-01-10T11:06:01.290-06:00Alfred Mac Adam, in the introduction to his transl...Alfred Mac Adam, in the introduction to his translation, advises readers to read the whole thing in order once. Just once! And then read random pages forever after.<br /><br />So we''ll see. Nice to make your (Claudia, Seymour) acquaintances, by the way.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-71283726735949565912012-01-10T10:58:28.823-06:002012-01-10T10:58:28.823-06:00Another Portuguese person here and agreeing with S...Another Portuguese person here and agreeing with Séamus Duggan: I think I've read most of it by reading random pages here and there through the years - I use it as comfort reading. Pessoa said the book was a "dreamed up confession of the uselessness and painful fury of dreaming".<br /><br />Anyway, curious to see what you make of it. March, you say?Claudiahttp://claudia.weblog.com.ptnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-46821361382108716372012-01-10T01:32:30.151-06:002012-01-10T01:32:30.151-06:00sasha sent me here. Yes.sasha sent me here. Yes.seymourbloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02843717286012748265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-87897525231156586432012-01-09T22:40:22.330-06:002012-01-09T22:40:22.330-06:00Better and better.Better and better.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-26274206716093583512012-01-09T21:48:17.211-06:002012-01-09T21:48:17.211-06:00Ok, I'm in. Now I have to decide on an editio...Ok, I'm in. Now I have to decide on an edition. Ok. March then.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-72881395865595801102012-01-09T13:51:23.854-06:002012-01-09T13:51:23.854-06:00I found a copy in a library near here. It's a ...I found a copy in a library near here. It's a mixture of pieces that anyone interested in Pessoa would probably call Basic Essentials (essays in which heteronyms comment on other heteronyms, letters to friends explaining his thoughts about life, etc), and then rarities, unusual things (a script for a one-act play, the sole piece of writing from his only woman-heteronym, &c). There's a notZenith translation of the play here: http://www.brooklynrail.org/2008/09/fiction/the-mariner-a-static-drama-in-one-scene-1Umbagollahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14556344092820711893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-82998520144391940112012-01-05T21:00:49.352-06:002012-01-05T21:00:49.352-06:00Yes! The Zenith Selected Prose, that's right. ...Yes! The Zenith <i>Selected Prose</i>, that's right. I do not really know what else is in that one. It is much longer than <i>Always Astonished</i>.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-60817983143681517352012-01-05T19:57:09.201-06:002012-01-05T19:57:09.201-06:00Re. I think also available elsewhere.
Zenith incl...Re. I think also available elsewhere.<br /><br />Zenith included it in his <i>Selected Prose of Fernando Pessoa</i>. I wonder how much those two books overlap.Umbagollahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14556344092820711893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-49426599728607186702012-01-05T14:44:45.089-06:002012-01-05T14:44:45.089-06:00It could be worse (or I might mean better). The s...It could be worse (or I might mean better). The strangely written <i>Book of Disquiet</i> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_Of_Disquietude" rel="nofollow">wiki page</a> says:<br /><br />"The <i>Book</i> is a bestseller, especially in German (16 editions, from different translators and publishers)"Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-87832714859987110492012-01-05T12:10:18.563-06:002012-01-05T12:10:18.563-06:00I figured I'll have the Disquiet/Disquietude b...I figured I'll have the <i>Disquiet/Disquietude</i> by Richard Zenith. But even that had several editions.Risehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17446964640160585194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-60520244159124594152012-01-05T12:05:19.803-06:002012-01-05T12:05:19.803-06:00"The Anarchist Banker" is in the little ..."The Anarchist Banker" is in the little <i>Always Astonished</i> collection, but I think also available elsewhere.<br /><br />Sarah - reading is a good start.<br /><br />Séamus - oh, my pleasure, that was a useful post. I have a serious disadvantage here, which you helped me solve, that I have not actually read the book.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-21107524721268778722012-01-05T02:49:44.949-06:002012-01-05T02:49:44.949-06:00Thanks for linking to my post on Disquiet. It cert...Thanks for linking to my post on Disquiet. It certainly isn't a book that lends itself to being read at a trot. <br />I found that it constantly slowed me down to its own pace and it is perfectly suited to having to hand somewhere where you simply open a page and read.Séamus Dugganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00574186409184247059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-17028126813757791172012-01-04T21:15:10.599-06:002012-01-04T21:15:10.599-06:00Not sure I'll be doing much blogging by March,...Not sure I'll be doing much blogging by March, as I'll be in Oregon learning how to build with mud and straw...but I don't see that as an obstacle to READING some Pessoa. I plan to start sooner rather than later too.Sarah (tuulenhaiven)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11007601900702081303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-88317088251326968332012-01-04T20:25:41.334-06:002012-01-04T20:25:41.334-06:00I'm still up for some Disquiet in March and ma...I'm still up for some <em>Disquiet</em> in March and may join you for "The Anarchist Banker" as well (sounds plenty Brechtian). 30 pages? That's a tempting readalong length. Also, thanks for mentioning (and participating in) the <em>Savage Detectives</em> get together--should be another title where multiple reader perspectives help illuminate a multi-faceted diamond in the rough.Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01746599416342846897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-26498347070258962682012-01-04T16:42:53.126-06:002012-01-04T16:42:53.126-06:00A character in Laurie King? That's great, too ...A character in Laurie King? That's great, too funny. Mary Russell apparently buys Pessoa's guidebook to Lisbon (an actual book, although I think not really published until after his death).<br /><br />seraillon - no, the March date was my guess months ago. You just provided a useful example of an approach to the book. And a warning to anyone who thinks "It's not so long, I'll knock it off in a couple of days."<br /><br />Alex - that would be great if you joined us. You can correct all of our grotesque errors about Lisbon.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-80310157577917705922012-01-04T16:34:16.577-06:002012-01-04T16:34:16.577-06:00Offhand, and not pertinently (impertinently?) -- P...Offhand, and not pertinently (impertinently?) -- Pessoa shows up as a character in Laurie King's most recent detective novel. Each time he appears, he's "in character" as a different self.Jennyhttp://shelflove.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-51969247299239221982012-01-04T15:06:25.761-06:002012-01-04T15:06:25.761-06:00I hope my casual "two months" comment di...I hope my casual "two months" comment didn't figure into your setting the readalong for so far out. I simply found Pessoa's book to lend itself to small daily doses, and besides, I'm slow. In any event, I'm very much looking forward to the discussion, particularly if all the different translations get involved. Who knows - perhaps we'll end up producing a BoD concordance.seraillonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17654593356535433945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-91848590672642246832012-01-04T10:30:11.885-06:002012-01-04T10:30:11.885-06:00O Livro do Desassossego always half intimidated, h...O Livro do Desassossego always half intimidated, half picked my curiosity. I can't make any promises, but I might join you at the end of March. It would be interesting to read it with non-Portuguese.Alex (The Sleepless Reader)https://www.blogger.com/profile/03083761152675156469noreply@blogger.com