tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post7181507831620804396..comments2024-03-27T16:48:21.039-05:00Comments on Wuthering <br>Expectations: The music of an ocean of mud - an invitation to read Karl Kraus before - well, see belowAmateur Reader (Tom)http://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-79560057452830365192013-09-19T17:03:47.539-05:002013-09-19T17:03:47.539-05:00I predict that Franzen and his two co-authors will...I predict that Franzen and his two co-authors will one day be revealed as pseudonyms for David Shields, and this is all an elaborate plot to turn the reading public against novelists as Shields continues his promotion of some idiosyncratic version of narrative nonfiction. I will bet you five dollars that I am right.scott g.f.baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05726743149139510832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-32769959341632082602013-09-19T16:51:35.826-05:002013-09-19T16:51:35.826-05:00It's even better - the footnotes have three (3...It's even better - the footnotes have three (3) authors total, Franzen and two co-authors. In some of the footnotes, the co-authors argue with or correct Franzen. It is something. It will be interesting to see if any reviewers go with the avant garde Kinbote thing.<br /><br />I have been doing all of my arguing and joking and self-promoting about Kraus and the JF book on Twitter, since I am told by JF that I should not.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-75309769211277155582013-09-19T16:42:24.077-05:002013-09-19T16:42:24.077-05:00Jonathan Kinbote.Jonathan Kinbote.scott g.f.baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05726743149139510832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-11951842127701384442013-09-19T15:41:16.946-05:002013-09-19T15:41:16.946-05:00Good one. Very funny. Ver-ry funny.
"Let me...Good one. Very funny. Ver-ry funny.<br /><br />"Let me turn to my own example..." Of course, of course.<br /><br />The 6,400-word Franzen essay accompanying that article is actually presented as <i>footnotes to Kraus</i> in the new book, which is either a catastrophe or a sly, innovative, form-defying work of art. Or both.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-31769918623278218082013-09-19T15:22:34.791-05:002013-09-19T15:22:34.791-05:00Did you happen to see the Jonathan Franzen intervi...Did you happen to see the Jonathan Franzen interview about Kraus in the Guardian (9.15.13)?seraillonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17654593356535433945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-56985231983638791922013-04-02T15:14:47.131-05:002013-04-02T15:14:47.131-05:00My pleasure! Oblomov is long, too. That will tak...My pleasure! <i>Oblomov</i> is long, too. That will take some planning.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-79513220458030814232013-04-02T11:58:41.878-05:002013-04-02T11:58:41.878-05:00Great, make my reading list "worse". :) ...Great, make my reading list "worse". :) Thanks for informing me about <i>The Last Days of Mankind</i>, Polish Lit month at Winston's Dad, and Richard's <i>Oblomov</i>. Thank goodness I'm done teaching June 1! Bellezza https://www.blogger.com/profile/18073864187188953633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-24922778885839175222013-04-02T08:21:40.351-05:002013-04-02T08:21:40.351-05:00No, the Franzen book appears to be real, not an Ap...No, the Franzen book appears to be real, not an April Fool's joke.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-54017280277254240972013-04-02T08:20:55.682-05:002013-04-02T08:20:55.682-05:00Ah, varies from location to location. I had not t...Ah, varies from location to location. I had not thought of that. Quite possible. <br /><br />As for the writers in that volume - I know! What a combo.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-74950259661664507312013-04-02T02:39:17.718-05:002013-04-02T02:39:17.718-05:00April 1, remember.April 1, remember.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-2961734785537403452013-04-02T02:02:37.630-05:002013-04-02T02:02:37.630-05:00I'll be following the posts. The Google book s...I'll be following the posts. The Google book selection is apparently accessible for a few pages only. Perhaps it varies from location to location. I'm looking at the euphony of writers as possible reads in the future.Risehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17446964640160585194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-72774492214741896862013-04-01T23:17:25.341-05:002013-04-01T23:17:25.341-05:00Oh thanks, Bellezza. The authors make "inter...Oh thanks, Bellezza. The authors make "interesting and new" very easy.<br /><br />30 pages - oh no, not at all enough. I hope to get through the quarter or so of <i>The Last Days of Mankind</i> that is in English.<br /><br />Gombrowicz is my 90% likely pick for the June Polish Literature Month organized by <a href="http://winstonsdad.wordpress.com/2013/02/25/polish-literature-month-june-2013/" rel="nofollow">WinstonsDad</a>. <br /><br />I believe Ricardo's <i>Oblomov</i> readalong is in June as well.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-91409158739572190292013-04-01T22:44:05.310-05:002013-04-01T22:44:05.310-05:00It's funny how so much of Kraus, whose writing...It's funny how so much of Kraus, whose writing was intended as topical and particular to it's time and place, seems to fit just as well to our own. I must admit 30 pages is not enough.<br /><br />Also looking forward to Gombrowicz. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-65620008024605397092013-04-01T19:32:08.426-05:002013-04-01T19:32:08.426-05:00I agree with Scott about sitting Franzen out. Howe...I agree with Scott about sitting Franzen out. However, I'm sorely tempted to join youa nd Richard. As to your stats, they'll hardly be lowered I'm sure. You're always onto something interesting and new.Bellezza https://www.blogger.com/profile/18073864187188953633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-34980271198968782022013-04-01T17:14:20.224-05:002013-04-01T17:14:20.224-05:00Just think of how many libraries that currently ha...Just think of how many libraries that currently have <i>no</i> Karl Kraus will soon have <i>some</i>, whatever Franzen has translated.<br /><br />Or maybe this is some sort of strange publishing experiment by FSG to determine the exact size of Franzen's core cult. Just <i>how few</i> books can he sell?<br /><br />Kraus must be some equivalent of box-office poison. I expect the Wuthering Expectations statistics, whatever those are, to crash, but to quickly recover as I move on to Hofmannsthal and Goncharov and Gombrowicz and - well, no, I expect them to be permanently reduced.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-62125174868902418532013-04-01T14:52:07.183-05:002013-04-01T14:52:07.183-05:00I am in on the Kraus. I'll sit the Franzen out...I am in on the Kraus. I'll sit the Franzen out.scott g.f.baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05726743149139510832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-2001811626905003462013-04-01T13:10:00.574-05:002013-04-01T13:10:00.574-05:00I was wondering how Jonathan Franzen was going to ...I was wondering how Jonathan Franzen was going to make an appearance in your promised blog post. This is not what I expected (I also did not expect a glowing review of <i>Freedom</i>, so there's that). Thanks for the heads-up on Kraus; I will join in. seraillonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17654593356535433945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-4447328819809840382013-04-01T10:18:28.767-05:002013-04-01T10:18:28.767-05:00Franzen is just doing his Krausian duty as an arti...Franzen is just doing his Krausian duty as an artist. Boy is he ever. Doesn't even seem like duty with him.<br /><br />He apparently got interested in Kraus decades ago, on a Fulbright in Germany. So this idea has been rattling around for a while. So who knows.<br /><br />He should rein in those copy-writers, though. Maybe I am missing a joke.<br /><br />I should mention that Penguin Classics has a new (or reprinted old?) edition of Kraus coming about in July.<br /><br />Coming this fall: Kraus-mania! Everyone's gonna be reading Kraus. I foresee some perplexing and perplexed reviews.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-28252208036796563712013-04-01T09:25:29.342-05:002013-04-01T09:25:29.342-05:00End of April? That's like a page a day, right...End of April? That's like a page a day, right? I'm in. Oh, right, I was already in, thanks. Too bad about Franzen's interest in Kraus. After I saw a clip of him and Oprah making up, I lost all respect for the guy although I never really had any for him in the first place. This has nothing to do with his writing, which I've not read, so I'm not biased against him for his novels...just as a man!Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01746599416342846897noreply@blogger.com