tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post7907291325828969844..comments2024-03-27T16:48:21.039-05:00Comments on Wuthering <br>Expectations: Why did I read so much Matthew Arnold poetry?Amateur Reader (Tom)http://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-19982588333516807562009-05-15T16:14:00.000-05:002009-05-15T16:14:00.000-05:00It didn't seem that hardcore. Less than 500 pages ...It didn't seem that hardcore. Less than 500 pages over the course of two months. Still, I would recommend a Selected Poems to anyone interested, including my future self.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-11817125441722320092009-05-15T10:37:00.000-05:002009-05-15T10:37:00.000-05:00Reading all of Matthew Arnold is pretty hard core!...Reading all of Matthew Arnold is pretty hard core! I admire your fortitude.Stefaniehttp://somanybooksblog.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-53684576071567576532009-05-12T16:52:00.000-05:002009-05-12T16:52:00.000-05:00Depsite my joking and whining, there was only one ...Depsite my joking and whining, there was only one Arnold piece that I actually regretted reading. The flawless book of poetry, the flawless poem, is such a rare thing.<br /><br />I understand that, for some critics, Arnold may as well have written just one poem. So, verbivore, hie thee to "Dover Beach," definitely. Otherwise, see what you think this week.<br /><br />Like Brian, as soon as I focus in on a stanza, or line, even in a poem as good as "Dover Beach," I start to have doubts. "tremulous cadence slow" - exactly, what does that really mean. Ashbery - exactly, he could make that line work. For one thing, in an Ashbery poem, it wouldn't have to scan.<br /><br />I've not read a complete "as published" Tennyson book. That would be a good experiment. Let's see, Hopkins is defnitely later. 1850 really is a big year for English poetry - besides the ones zhiv mentions, there're R Browning's <I>Christmas Eve and Easter Day</I>, EB Browning's <I>Sonnets from the Portuguese</I>, and, most importantly for my purpose here, the return of the other EB (saving that for Friday). "The Scholar Gypsy" is Thursday! <br /><br />Art Ravels - nice <A HREF="http://artsravel.blogspot.com/2009/05/golem-in-attic-and-other-tales.html" REL="nofollow">golem post</A>! I've crossed the Channel to Gautier and Nerval for my palate cleansers - no, what's the opposite of a palate cleanser? Swinburne will have to wait. Swinburne makes me nervous.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-23295434540580951282009-05-12T13:29:00.000-05:002009-05-12T13:29:00.000-05:00I do love Arnold's criticism, but after ALL of his...I do love Arnold's criticism, but after ALL of his poetry, I would counteract right away with some Swinburne to shake things up.Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07615345242334094697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-34100291864707343202009-05-12T09:58:00.000-05:002009-05-12T09:58:00.000-05:00"I don't hear that eternal note of sadness"
That ..."I don't hear that eternal note of sadness"<br /><br />That was my exact thought when I read that line, but prefaced with "what the....?!?" And similar to when I read the line before it, <I>tremulous cadence slow</I>. <br /><br />However, I do like "and the dark cucumber", as it sounds like something Ashbery would come up with. Right because its so wrong, equalling to 'funny'.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11632328198420140293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-4236033441993909122009-05-12T09:54:00.000-05:002009-05-12T09:54:00.000-05:00This is probably a good time to fess up to one of ...This is probably a good time to fess up to one of those humiliations - I didn't even know Matthew Arnold wrote poetry. I've only read his critical essays and assumed he had no lyrical side...so please do spend a week on him!verbivorehttp://incurablelogophilia.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-52932846034755819912009-05-11T19:08:00.000-05:002009-05-11T19:08:00.000-05:00Scholar gypsy coming up?
Interesting comment on t...Scholar gypsy coming up?<br /><br />Interesting comment on the comparison to Clough in 1850. Isn't that the big Victorian poetry year? A version of Wordsworth's Prelude, and Tennyson stepping up with In Memoriam? Probably should check that--ha, got it right! Since you mention Browning, where does Tennyson stand in this discussion? And have you done GM Hopkins? Should he be in the mix here? Who else? One bumps into the PreRaphaelites soon enough, I suppose. I like the idea of giving Clough the edge.zhivnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-34527303611221945132009-05-11T18:12:00.000-05:002009-05-11T18:12:00.000-05:00Curses on the Completeness Neurosis! Still, it's c...Curses on the Completeness Neurosis! Still, it's cool to have given Arnold a good try. I do admire that.Rebecca H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10825532162727473112noreply@blogger.com