tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post8432928745544628203..comments2024-03-17T05:07:13.710-05:00Comments on Wuthering <br>Expectations: And quiet did quiet remain - Walter de la Mare's Peacock Pie at the edge of All the AgesAmateur Reader (Tom)http://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-12081221734194043712016-04-14T08:48:12.656-05:002016-04-14T08:48:12.656-05:00A lovely moment of innocent greed.A lovely moment of innocent greed.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-71443968408590430492016-04-14T05:05:19.767-05:002016-04-14T05:05:19.767-05:00Not telling a story but I liked this one but proba...Not telling a story but I liked this one but probably won't whem I'm a Grannie:<br /><br />'I know a little cupboard,<br />With a teeny tiny key,<br />And there's a jar of Lollypops<br />For me, me, me...<br /><br />I have a small fat grandmamma,<br />With a very slippery knee,<br />And she's the Keeper of the Cupboard<br />With the key, key, key.'Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06820925595506920754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-6207673096515596882016-04-09T15:56:36.223-05:002016-04-09T15:56:36.223-05:00De la Mare's children's poems - plenty of ...De la Mare's children's poems - plenty of his adult poems, too - are essentially fairy tales, but picking out that one sublime moment, the one point that matters most.<br /><br />So you make of them what you want. Your imagination does the rest in some vague way.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-23040075183199446292016-04-09T14:36:40.908-05:002016-04-09T14:36:40.908-05:00These (at least the excerpts you have posted) are ...These (at least the excerpts you have posted) are what I think of when I think of children's poems--the rhythms of them, at least. And they are charming excerpts, even if I don't know quite what to make of them.amanda @ simplerpastimeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14127945915013121105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-49618711672394535072016-04-05T16:57:03.764-05:002016-04-05T16:57:03.764-05:00There are still plenty of kids who could find thei...There are still plenty of kids who could find their way into the mood of these poems.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-80813786162644181472016-04-05T13:54:32.762-05:002016-04-05T13:54:32.762-05:00Wonderfully strange. I remember living that moon p...Wonderfully strange. I remember living that moon poem at least once when I was a child.seraillonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17654593356535433945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-47272312373872587442016-04-05T13:36:18.972-05:002016-04-05T13:36:18.972-05:00I would need a guide to help me with the reference...I would need a guide to help me with the references. If I am hearing them, it is only as echoes. The <i>Hamlet</i> poem seemed obvious, but that only means that I am more familiar with <i>Hamlet</i> than with (you name it).<br /><br />I like nonsense to much to be a good judge of what is not nonsense. Fine with me if it's all nonsense.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-85698955559127381082016-04-05T13:06:23.466-05:002016-04-05T13:06:23.466-05:00A lot of de la Mare's children's poetry re...A lot of de la Mare's children's poetry refers to other poetry - you cite “The Song of the Mad Prince” with its echo of Hamlet, but many of his other poems are about other poems. Having read or been read de la Mare as a small child I found it hard to realise that he was quoting other poets, not them him when I came across the "originals". <br />How do we decide what is nonsense and what supersense? There's a lot of debate about what Shakespeare actually <i>meant</i> and the modernists inspired a clash between their admirers who said they were doing something new and transformative in poetry and their opponents who said they were pretentious bluffers.Roger Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11012987757094423896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-84666344126480549562016-04-05T08:11:35.945-05:002016-04-05T08:11:35.945-05:00Adult poetry need not contain any more meaning tha...Adult poetry need not contain any more meaning than poetry for children.<br /><br />None of Walter de la Mare's children's poetry is nonsense. Much of it is as profound as his other poetry, although profound in different ways.<br /><br />"Sometimes nonsense is better than any sense" - now I do agree with that. Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-61707408725319782652016-04-05T07:52:56.139-05:002016-04-05T07:52:56.139-05:00Would it be a fair statement to suggest this? Chil...Would it be a fair statement to suggest this? Children's rhymes need not contain any "meaning" at all -- not in the way literary critics would seek out such things -- and sometimes nonsense is better than any sense, but the rhymes must be easily remembered and recited, and that requires meter, rhyme, diction, and other "mechanical" qualities rather than any profound meanings. Consider, for example, Lewis Carroll's "Jabberwocky" as well as his other offerings and those by Lear and Nash et al. RTDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17113953356514605424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-90717553437271331862016-04-04T23:32:41.526-05:002016-04-04T23:32:41.526-05:00I haven't read Synge - I was just thinking I o...I haven't read Synge - I was just thinking I oughtta.<br /><br />The dreamy absences in these de la Mare poems are outstanding. Fragments of speculation, that's good.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-85761354343442170532016-04-04T18:02:41.024-05:002016-04-04T18:02:41.024-05:00it is VERY like moorcock-good comparison. "h...it is VERY like moorcock-good comparison. "hoarse seacry"=horsy cry? is that Synge who wrote the one comparing crashing waves to horses emerging from the ocean? de la mare is wonderful, many supra-oneiric fragments of speculation emanating from his poetry...Mudpuddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17194891656971454279noreply@blogger.com