tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post869469002685338690..comments2024-03-29T03:04:00.853-05:00Comments on Wuthering <br>Expectations: With all the power of his imagination - Carlo Goldoni reforms Italian comedyAmateur Reader (Tom)http://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-46002042820633280572015-01-26T08:22:40.618-06:002015-01-26T08:22:40.618-06:00Now that we have, finally, Italianized our coffee ...Now that we have, finally, Italianized our coffee shops, the coffee scenes have become perfectly contemporary.<br /><br />I may do a cruel post cataloging cruel acts in <i>Pinocchio</i>. Some of them are pretty rough.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-21291516366532528402015-01-26T03:38:48.760-06:002015-01-26T03:38:48.760-06:00Did he borrow that scene with the coffees from Fri...Did he borrow that scene with the coffees from Friends? It's just short a frappuchino and chai latte of being specifically 1990's comedy. Pinnochio is indeed cruel. I found myself editing frantically when reading it for my daughter when she was younger. Séamus Dugganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00574186409184247059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-36704404726224470812015-01-21T16:19:30.588-06:002015-01-21T16:19:30.588-06:00If anything I am under-emphasizing the audience-in...If anything I am under-emphasizing the audience-interaction side of Goldoni. His signature device is the aside. He writes conversations which are half asides to the audience. Again, he is trying to do something novel-like on stage, but without the model of what we think of as novels.<br /><br />It really is pretty modern. I think humplehappiness is right about the rhetoric, too, that the kind of speeches found in Racine and Marivaux felt false to Goldoni, or maybe not false but not possible with the kinds of characters he was writing.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-61369528641906786122015-01-21T15:05:48.276-06:002015-01-21T15:05:48.276-06:00That's a great Pirandello moment too! This god...That's a great Pirandello moment too! This goddamn post-modernist thing is such an old thing!LMRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08538873868140070018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-25739502175433118912015-01-21T09:44:15.495-06:002015-01-21T09:44:15.495-06:00Goldoni had made the transition to modernity. It w...Goldoni had made the transition to modernity. It was no longer possible for him to seriously write the kind of heroic speeches that Shakespeare, Racine or Marivaux excelled at. For example, as we all know, on Marivaux's Slave Island the part of Cleanthys was originally played by Sylvia (AKA Gianna Benozzi). Here's her famous monologue from scene X: <br /><br /> There you have it, the people who despise us most in this world, those who are so full of themselves, who mistreat us, and who look upon us as if we were mere earthworms, those people are very happy then, when they find out that we are a hundred times more honest than they are. Yeah right! It is indeed a sad thing when your only merit is the possession of gold, silver and power!<br /><br /> Now, it all comes down to whether or not to forgive you, and to deserve that gift then, what should you be, please tell? Rich? no, noble? no, a great lord? Nothing like that. You were all of those, and were you worth more because of that? So, what is needed to deserve forgiveness? Ah! Just this: You must have a good heart, virtue and reason, that's all that is needed, that's what is worthy, what distinguishes us, what makes one person better than another. Do you hear me ladies and gentlemen, you the honest people of the world?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-21442210275872958962015-01-21T08:27:20.815-06:002015-01-21T08:27:20.815-06:00Goldoni was not ahead; the game was behind.Goldoni was not ahead; the game was behind.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3383938214852108244.post-41584492138244239472015-01-21T06:50:06.158-06:002015-01-21T06:50:06.158-06:00"An ancestor of the sitcom." Shrewdly o..."An ancestor of the sitcom." Shrewdly observed! Giacinta's crack about omitting the author's long speech sounds like something Unamuno would have done--and in fact did--in prose right about 1914. I guess Goldoni was quite ahead of the game.Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01746599416342846897noreply@blogger.com