Let’s read the ancient Greek plays next year. All of them. There are not so many, and they are generally short.
I’ll read them all, one per week, and put up some kind of
post on Friday, where anyone can join in.
Of course anyone can do whatever they want, on their own blog or on
Twitter or in quiet communion with nature.
Below, we can see my schedule, but everyone is welcome to dip in
as they like.
I have no Greek and no expertise, except that I read through
the plays over twenty years ago, and have read several on occasion since. They are, overall, fundamental texts in my
understanding of literature, not just theater.
They are also full of great characters, exciting stories, extraordinary
language (even in translation), and conceptual innovations of the greatest
importance.
We are lucky to have seven surviving plays by Aeschylus,
seven by Sophocles, nineteen by Euripides (one of which is perhaps by someone
else), eleven by Aristophanes, and one by Menander, with one more close enough
to complete that I am including it.
Forty-six plays in forty-six weeks.
I have made an educational and perhaps foolish attempt to
put the plays in chronological order, relying mostly on the Penguin and University
of Chicago editions. My chronology is
likely full of errors – please correct – and anyways should be often taken as
guesswork. But once we get into the 420s
the mix gets pretty interesting. 405 is
a landmark in literature. All years are
BCE.
A |
Aeschylus
(524-456) |
S |
Sophocles
(496-405) |
E |
Euripides
(480-406) |
Ar |
Aristophanes
(446-386) |
M |
Menander
(341-290) |
472 |
A |
The
Persians |
|
470 |
|
|
first
Sophocles play |
467 |
A |
Seven
Against Thebes |
|
463 |
A |
The
Suppliants |
|
??? |
A |
Prometheus
Bound |
|
Early? |
S |
Ajax |
|
458 |
A |
Agamemnon |
|
|
A |
The
Libation Bearers |
|
|
A |
Eumenides |
|
441 |
S |
Antigone |
|
Before
440? |
"E" |
Rhesus |
|
438 |
E |
Alcestis |
Death
of Pindar |
431 |
E |
The
Medea |
|
430 |
|
|
Death
of Herodotus |
c.
429 |
E |
The
Heracleidae |
|
428 |
E |
Hippolytus |
|
c.
426 |
S |
Oedipus
Rex |
|
c.
425 |
E |
Andromache |
|
425 |
Ar |
The
Acharnians |
|
c.
424 |
E |
Hecuba |
|
424 |
Ar |
The
Knights |
|
c.
423 |
E |
The
Suppliants |
|
423 |
Ar |
The
Clouds |
|
c.
420s |
S |
The
Women of Trachis |
|
422 |
Ar |
The
Wasps |
|
421 |
Ar |
Peace |
|
Late
- 420-414 |
S |
Elektra |
|
c.
416 |
E |
Herakles |
|
c.
415 |
E |
The
Trojan Women |
|
c.
414 |
E |
Iphigenia
in Tauris |
|
414 |
Ar |
The
Birds |
|
c.
413 |
E |
Ion |
|
c.
413 |
E |
Electra |
|
412 |
E |
Helen |
|
411 |
Ar |
Lysistrata |
|
411 |
Ar |
The
Poet and the Women |
|
c.
410 |
E |
The
Phoenician Women |
|
Late
? |
E |
The
Cyclops |
|
409 |
S |
Philoctetes |
|
408 |
E |
Orestes |
|
405 |
E |
The Bacchae |
Death of Sophocles |
|
E |
Iphigenia in Aulis |
|
|
Ar |
The Frogs |
|
404 |
S |
Oedipus at Colonus |
|
400 |
|
|
Death
of Thucydides |
399 |
|
|
Death
of Socrates |
392 |
Ar |
The
Assemblywomen |
|
388 |
Ar |
Wealth |
|
347 |
|
|
Death
of Plato |
323 |
|
|
Death
of Alexander |
322 |
|
|
Death
of Aristotle |
316 |
M |
Dyskolos |
|
c.
315 |
M |
The
Girl from Samos |
|
Just putting the list together got me excited to read the
plays along with whoever is interested.
Perhaps half of them are among the greatest works in literature. But we can chat about that later.
As for translations, I have no advice. The University of Chicago series has been a
standard for a long time. The Oxford
series with the black covers always seemed excellent, and have more notes. Every Penguin Classics I have tired has been
good. Any of these will have adequate
notes for most people. I am curious
about some of the “celebrity” versions – Seamus Heaney’s Antigone, or Wole
Soyinka’s Antigone, for example.
H.D.’s Ion is a good one.
But all of that can wait, too.
I plan to start in January, with the first post on The
Persians up on January 14.
The title of the post uses the last line of The Eumenides as per Robert Fagles.
Looking forward to this.
ReplyDeleteSounds fun.
ReplyDeleteHow did Euripides write his last two plays in 405 if he died in 406?
ReplyDeleteIt is fun. It was fun last time.
ReplyDeleteThe dates of the plays, when known, are performance dates the year of the debut at the spring Festival of Dionysus.
In 405, Sophocles died before the competition, so both the Euripides and Sophocles performances were posthumous. I feel sorry for the third playwright - that's some competition. Up against not just Sophocles and Euripides, but dead Sophocles and Euripides. Guaranteed 3rd place finish.
Some of what I just wrote is then part of the plot of The Frogs. What a festival!
I'd been under the impression that the playwrights had to be alive in order to compete, because otherwise there'd be no backstage drama with fights over who gets the best actors and stage times. I guess I also assumed that the writers directed the plays themselves. I'm likely conflating some of what I read about the Greeks with some of what I read about the Viennese music scene in the 18th century.
ReplyDelete2022 will also be an entertaining year, in a small internet way.
Yes, that is generally true. These particular plays were a special occasion, likely directed by a son or grandson or nephew.
ReplyDeleteSome interenet sources, including Wiki, confidently put the first performance of Oedipus at Colonus in 401, which might well be true. David Grene, on p, 1 of the University of Chicago edition, which I am double-checking now, says 404. Not 405. Oh for pity's sake. OK, there is my first correction.
I have two different University of Chicago editions, with introductions to Colonus by Grene, who says in one that the play was written in 409 or 408, and in the other that it was first performed in 404. I am not going to compare introductions in both editions to all the plays. Especially since I don't have all the volumes of the trade paperback edition (which seems to be the one you're looking at).
ReplyDeleteYes, the paperbacks. Performance dates are what I want.
ReplyDeleteWith luck early next year I will acquire a Cambridge Companion to Greek Tragedy or something similar and overhaul the whole list. Bring the research up to date, so to speak.
I'm 50% through the Plays so I will definitely be joining to finish it off!
ReplyDeleteGood! I am not much of a completist, but in this case, well. It's worth getting pretty close, anyway.
ReplyDeleteI'm in, and friends from high school who I've been reading Stoppard with also plan to join in. Looking forward to it!
ReplyDeletePS: I'm new to using this comment platform. Is there a trick to the Preview button? It seems to just redirect to the page of comments.
So great! Welcome. A Stoppard reading group, so much fun.
ReplyDeleteThe functioning of the comments seems to change almost randomly over time, so I am not much help there. I am at the mercy of Google.
Sounds like fun! Will try to get my wife, who reads Ancient Greek, to join in as well!
ReplyDeleteAlso if you get a chance, check out an obit of Bernard Knox who did the intro to the Fagles translations. What a life.
ReplyDeleteoh, Knox does the intro to the Fagles Sophocles. I didn't know that.
ReplyDeleteIt is an open puzzle how much secondary literature I want to investigate. These plays have generated so much great criticism. I have other thing to do!
That would be wonderful if a Greek-language reader or two could join in. The rest of us are at the mercy of the translators.
What a marvelous idea. After two nearly years of lockdown in Metro Manila this seems such a positive project.
ReplyDeleteMel, that is so nice to hear. That is how I think of it, too.
ReplyDeleteI know this project presses the guilt button a bit - "I should read those" - yes, one should, some of them, at least - but the more I mess with this idea the more pleasurable it seems.
Wow. Just...wow. I love it.
ReplyDeleteMoving, again, so hopefully when you start I'll be able to unpack what's left of my books and join in. By then, I'm supposed to have some free time, but I've heard that promise before. (And I'm my own worst enemy on signing up for things.)
Aside: I took a course on ancient Mediterranean civilizations this semester and was happy when we went over several of these plays. Sublime satisfaction.
What a great idea! Just found this (a little late ) when I clicked on your blog, and this is my kind of book club!
ReplyDeleteIt's been a wonderful journey for me, Kat. I'm sure you'd love it.
DeleteIt has been a productive idea. Please join in as seems fun. There are still a number of really high-level masterpieces on their way, through the fall.
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